[The following is a section from a long article called A Search for the Historical Krishna by
Dr NS Rajaram, which precedes his upcoming book which will be of the same
title. Dr NS Rajaram was a former engineer at NASA, a field which he
subsequently left to study ancient civilisations. He has authored a number of
scholarly and polemic works. He is widely respected in his field—although his
conclusions are by no means universally accepted. Dr Rajaram has also invited
hostility from some academics—although they tend to engage in personal attacks
rather than refuting his ideas. I have witnessed Dr Rajaram engage in a public
debate and also presenting his research papers, and his work is clearly well
researched. This subject, of the dating of the life of Shri Krishna is not a
settled subject, although scholars tend to converge on two dates (c. 3100 BCE
or c. 1500 BCE). This article articulated some of the evidence in favour of the
former.]
As we go on to celebrate another Sri
Krishna-janmashthami, here is a question of interest to all of us: was Krishna a historical figure, or is he just a myth created
to fill a void in the Hindu soul? As the most admired and adored figure in the Hindu
pantheon, Krishna occupies a unique place in
Indian history and tradition. Known since time immemorial as a Yadava prince of
the house of Vrishni, and the son of Vasudeva and Devaki, most Hindus have
accepted Krishna an avatar or incarnation of
Lord Vishnu. But now, in keeping with the spirit of the scientific age in which
we live, many people—including Hindus—want to know if he really existed.
This is not a new phenomenon: the question of his
historicity has engaged the attention of scholars for nearly two centuries,
ever since European scholars began to study India, questioning every belief
that the Hindus had held for millennia. They concluded—and their Indian
followers faithfully accepted—that Krishna was
a myth. In reality, it was a preconceived answer, which they sought to justify
by giving it an appearance of scholarship. But in these articles I will present
evidence to show that Krishna was indeed a
historical figure who lived about 5000 years ago. Since the life and career of
Krishna lie within the century or so described in the great historical epic
Mahabharata, if we can demonstrate the historicity of the characters and the
principal episodes of the epic, we will essentially have established Krishna's historicity also.
And the same goes for the date: once we know the dates
of the principal events in the Mahabharata, like the War, we automatically have
an approximate date for Krishna. If, on the
basis of our search, we can ascertain the existence of Krishna,
and arrive also at an approximate date for him, we are justified in regarding
him as a historical figure. The approach that I follow is inspired by the work
Sri Krishna Charitra written more than a century ago by the great Bengali
author Bankima Chandra Chatterji, supplemented by archaeological and other
research that has come to light up to our own time. The topics presented in
these articles are discussed in greater detail in my forthcoming book, Search
for the Historical Krishna.
Evidence for Krishna
According to Indian sources, Krishna
was a Vedic figure. He was a younger contemporary of Krishna-dvaipayana—or
'Krishna of the Island'—better known as Veda Vyasa—who by tradition was
responsible for the organization of Vedic hymns into their four fold division,
the form in which we know them today. He is also by tradition the author of the
earliest version of the Mahabharata. It is worth noting that the names of some
of the characters of the period are found in the literature of the period and
also on some Harappan seals that Jha and I have deciphered. For example, words
like Paila (Vyasa's pupil), Akrura (Krishna's friend), Vrishni (Krishna's
clan), Yadu (Krishna's ancestor), Sritirtha
(old name for Dwaraka) are found on seals, some of which may go back five
thousand years.
The greatest barrier to a rational study of ancient
Indian history continues to be a nineteenth century colonial fiction known as
the Aryan invasion of India.
When the ruins of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro
were discovered about 70 years ago, this was followed by a new piece of fiction
known as the Aryan-Dravidian wars. Science has now fully discredited both. We
now know that the Harappan Civilization came at the end of the Vedic Age. I
will not go into their details here, but only mention that in these articles I
totally ignore both the Aryan invasion and the idea of the Harappan
Civilization as Dravidian, unrelated to Vedic.
Panini, the great grammarian mentions several
Mahabharata characers including Vasudeva(Krishna),
Arjuna, Nakula, Kunti and others. We find the names of Mahabharata characters
in Vedic literature—Vicitravirya in Kathaka Samhita; Sikhandin Yajnasena in
Kaushitaki Brahmana; Janamejaya the grandson of Abhimanyu in Aitareya Brahmana;
and Pariksita in Shatapatha Brahmana. And the list is far from exhaustive.Among
Buddhist works Kunala Jataka mentions Krishnaa (i.e., Draupadi) in addition to
Bhimasena, Arjuna, Nakula, Sahadeva and Yudhittila (Pali for Yudhisthira). Dhananjaya
of the Kuru race (Arjuna) and Draupadi Svayamvara are referred to in Dhumakari
Jataka. The same work refers also to Yudhisthira as an ancestor of the Kurus of
Indapattana (i.e., Indraprastha) and also to Vidurapandita. In addition to
these Mahabharata characters, Krishna himself
is mentioned in Buddhist works such as Sutrapitaka and Lalitavistara. These
works are often hostile to Krishna and his
teachings, but the very fact they found it necessary to try to discredit him
(and his teachings) shows that he was accepted as a historical figure even by
them. They did not try to deny his historical existence.
Returning to the late Vedic literature, one of the most
interesting references to Krishna is to be
found in the ancient Chandogya Upanishad. It goes (my translation):"Ghora
of the Angirasas spoke thus to Krishna, son of Devaki (Krishna
Devaki-putra)—"Hearing your words I too am now free of thirst." And
till the end of life he sought refuge in these three principles: "Thou art
indestructible (akshita). Thou art eternal (acyuta). Thou art the flow of life
(prana samhita)."Krishna Devaki-putra is of course Krishna
of the Mahabharata. It is worth noting that Krishna studied the Vedas under
Ghora of the Angirasa clan, who seems to have inspired Krishna
to develop ideas that later went into the Bhagavadgita. The Gita is essentially
a summary of the Upanishads combined with the rationalism of the Sankhya
philosophy. No less remarkable is the fact that there is a reference to this
episode—of Ghora providing the seed of the Gita—on one of the Harappan seals.
The message is 'ghorah datah dvayuh varcah'—meaning 'Two essences given by
Ghora', the two essences being the Upanishads (Vedanta) and Sankhya. So in the
third millennium BC, Ghora was recognized as the inspirer of this synthesis of
Vedanta and Sankhya effected by Krishna in the
Bhagavadgita.
The important thing to note is that unlike the
Harivamsha or the Bhagavata, these works—the Upanishads, the Jatakas, the
Sutras or the Brahmanas—are not part of the historical tradition and had
therefore no reason to use these names except familiarity. With such profuse
references to Krishna and other Mahabharata
characters in so many unrelated works of diverse kinds, written in different
periods, there cannot be the slightest doubt that they refer to historical
characters in a historical era. What remains now is to fix an approximate date
for Krishna or the Mahabharata War. Krishna's date traditional scholars have always held that
Kaliyuga—the Age of Kali—began in 3102 BC. Whether this refers to the date of
the eighteen-day Mahabharata War or of the death of Krishna
is unclear and also I feel unimportant at this time. This results in a
discrepancy of about 35 years between the two, which is small in comparison
with the very great age of the events we are speaking about. Several
astronomers and astrologers of great eminence have attempted to arrive at the
date based on astronomical references found in the epics. Professor K.
Srinivasaraghavan, perhaps the foremost authority on the topic, has even
determined November 22, 3067 BC as the day on which the Mahabharata War took
place, but this assumes that ancient astronomical observations are exact which
I chose to avoid. I am not suggesting they are wrong, only that I prefer to be
conservative.
Some scholars reject such an early date as c. 3100 on
the ground that the Aryans came to India
only in 1500 BC, and Krishna and the
Mahabharata War must therefore be later. As noted the Aryan invasion theory has
been discredited by science. Also, our decipherment of Harappan and
pre-Harappan scripts has taken the Vedas to long before 3500 BC. So these
objections can be dismissed. The one arguable issue is the discovery of an
ancient submerged city at the island
of Bet Dwaraka by the
renowned archaeologist SR Rao. Rao, who identifies it with Krishna's
Dwaraka dates it to about 1500 BC. But his identification rests on insufficient
grounds based on ambiguous literary interpretations. In any event, the
historical references in the deciphered Harappan seals, some of which are over
a thousand years older than 1500 BC make it impossible that the site found by
Rao is Krishna's Dwaraka. We can next look at Krishna's date, from two different directions.Since
Ashvalayana mentions the Mahabharata and its authors Jaimini and Vaisampayana
as ancient, at least a century must have elapsed between the War and his time.
He records that in his time plants sprouted after the beginning of monsoon
rains in the Hindu month of Bhadrapada. This now takes place in Jyestha or
Ashadha. This goes to show that the monsoon in his time used to start in the
month of Sravana instead of Jyestha as it does today—a difference of about
seventy days. This is due to a well-known astronomical phenomenon called the
'precession of the equinoxes'. Seasons fall back relative to the fixed stars
(and the Hindu calendar which is based on the fixed stars) by about one day
every 72 years.
What this means is that the beginning of monsoon noted
by Ashvalayana must have been taking place close to 5000 years ago or about
3000 BC.Further, Ashvalayana pays homage to his teacher Kahola Kaushitaki who
was the sage of the Kaushitaki Brahmana. It mentions several Mahabharata
characters. It also mentions that the winter solstice—as the first day of
winter is called—took place on the day on which we now celebrate the
Maha-Shivaratri festival. The winter solstice now falls on December 21, and the
Maha-Shivaratri comes around March 1. This is due to the precession of the
equinoxes. This again means that from the time of Kahola Kausitaki, the seasons
have moved by about 70 days. So, 70 times 72 or about 5000 years must have
passed. This also supports a date of about 3100 BC for the Mahabharata War.
Amazingly, we even have Greek records pointing to the
same approximate date. Greek travelers who came to India
following Alexander's invasion have left us some tantalizing references to Krishna and also to Indian historical records as they
existed in their time. Authors like Pliny referred to Krishna
as Heracles, derived from Hari-Krishna. They record that the Indian Heracles—our
Krishna—was held in special honor by the
Sourseni tribe one of whose major cities was Methora. We can recognize them as
Shuraseni and Mathura.
(Shura was the father of Vasudeva and the grandfather of Krishna.)
Indian Heracles (Krishna)
is recorded by the Greeks as having lived 138 generations before the time of
Alexander and Sandracottos which we may take to be c. 330 BC. Taking 20 years
per generation, which is known to be a good average when ancient Indian
dynasties are involved, we are led to the computation 2760 + 330 = 3090 BC
which is remarkably close to the Kali date of 3102 BC. So a reckoning based on
ancient Greek records takes us again to the traditional date of c. 3100 BC.In
summary, we may safely conclude that technical and literary evidence from
several independent sources point to the traditional Kali date of 3102 BC as
being close to the actual date of the Mahabharata War. We have therefore
overwhelming evidence showing that Krishna was
a historical figure who must have lived within a century on either side of that
date, i.e., in the 3200-3000 BC period.
Re: A Search for the Historical Krishna—by NS Rajaram
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Dear friends of Ved Purans, Sanskrit, Mytology, history, and science and Maths,
"WISH you a very happy JANMASTHAMI festival to you all friends and family memebers. And enjoy NANAD GHER ANAND BHAYO JAI KANAIYA LALAKI tonight".
Though all purans says Lord krishna was born on the MIDNIGHTof SHRAVAN VAD ASTHAMI, when on the midnight? at 00:00 minute IST as we all celebrate in all temples? NO NO NO
Wait a minute, IT WAS MIDNIGHT of MATHURA kingdom of KANSHA. and not as midnight of VARANASI IST time line. Has a difference of abourt 19 minutes.
According to details in Purans , Rohini Nakshtram, uditam LAGNAM,
Mathura 27° 28' N 77° 41' E
IST time zone 82° 30' with difference of (82° 30' - 77° 41' =4° 49'. So the time difference of Mathura and IST=19m 16sec). Exact Birthplace location in the Temple area is 27° 30' N 77° 40' E
See the astronomical sky map at the midnights tonight at 00:00 -
ON IST 00:00 In varanasi Moon rises to Horizone but not in MATHURA, so birth time was not at IST MIDNIGHT. white MATHURA MIDNIGHT time 00:00 it rises to above horizone showing the correct time of JANMA OF LORD SHRI SHRI KRISHANA.
People change verything , dates times Horoscopes everything BUT CAN NOT CHANGE the STARS and Planets in the SKY. can not ask the Moon to rise early at IST 00:00 time to celebrate janmasthami. WE have to realise the Fact and accept the facts of SKY PLANETS and Stars there in the sky and not on the PAPERS.
Krishna was born in the Rohini nakshatra
Shri Mad Bhagvat Purane Dasma-skandhe tritiyo-Adhyaye (ATTACHED FOR YOU TO READ)
Krishna's astrology chartIn Puran every thing has been explained that Moon was rising in horizone in Rohini Nakshtra UDITAM LAGNAM.
SEE THE HOROSOPE. Though all planetary aspects are not said in PURAN but just put there by an imaginary calculations ONLY and not in the PURANS.
Many are in favour that though birth was celebrated in GOKUL on the ASTHAMI, Khrishna was born in the Night so was SAPTAMI as Asthami starts after sunrise ONLY.
THINKING are partially right as Asthami starts after sunrise but How can we say NANAD BAVA realise birth after sunrise or they did not wake up before sunrise? they were not SURYAVASHI, they waked up early in the morning before sunrise and Birth of Krishna was realised "PARODE" befor sunrise and that was ASTHAMI. NANAD BAVA might have celebrated on Navmi !!! or may be Second ASTHAMI ADHIK TIDHI ASTHAMI !!!!
Vedic ancestry and relationship truth as we have in records from purans. (if any errors found please notify to correct it on records)
Information about Moon for 02 Sep 2010 23:59:59
Local Information of MOON
Right ascension: 5h 32m 55.62s
Declination: +24° 14' 46.8"
Constellation: Taurus
Altitude: -2° 6' 36"
Azimuth: 61° 9' 56"
Rise: 0h 6m 57s
Transit: 7h 18m 18s
Set: 14h 28m 19s
Star atlas chart numbers:
Herald-Bobroff Astroatlas, Chart C-35
Millennium Star Atlas, Charts 157-158 (Vol I)
Sky Atlas 2000.0, Chart 5
Uranometria 2000 Chart 135, Vol 1
Geocentric Information
Apparent geocentric coordinates for the epoch of date:
Right ascension: 5h 29m 18.238s
Declination: +24° 44' 43.10"
True distance: 378764.7 Km
Horizontal parallax: 3473.52"
LORD KRISHNA HOME IN bet Dwarika
Bet Dwarka was the residence of Bhagwan Sri Krishna. This is the place where Lord Krishna was staying. This is the same place where Sudama meet him and gave "Bhet" (Gift) of "Tandul-POHA" (Rice). So it is call "Bhet-Dwarka" also.
Bet Dwarka Island, also known as Bet Shankhodhara, is situated in the Gulf of Kutch. The island has a temple dedicated to Lord Krishna. Early historic settlement remains have been located on the island which may be dated back to 3rd century BC on the basis of a potsherd inscribed with 'Nandakasa' in the Mauryan Brahmi script.
INDIAN OCENOGRPHY HAS REVEALED THE MARINE UNDER WATER REMAINS OF OLD CITY OF DWARILA WICH IS 3000BC.
Born in Dwapur Yug (Iron Age) ON JANMASTHAMI (SAVAN VAD ASTHAMI 3228 BC AT MIDNIGHT OF MATHURA - NOT MIDNIGHT OF PRSENT IST). MATHURA MIDNIGHT IS 18 MINUTES LATER THAN THATS OF IST SO TIME WAS 12:18 AM IST MIDNIGHT TIME ON JANMASTHAMI SAVAN VAD ASTHAMI.
According to some scholars, Krishna was born on Wednesday,the eighth day of second fortnight in Sravana month in the year of Visvavasu around 3227 BC, also known as Dwapur Yug. July 19th 3228 BC to be more accurate.
KRISHNA lived for 125 years and disappeared on February 18th 3102 BC on the new moon night (bij- DWIJ) of Phalguna. FALGUN SUD DWIJ , AT THE PLACE CALLED MOKSH PIPALA ON THE RIVER BANK OF HIRAN RIVER, IN BHALKA TIRTH IN SOMNATH PATAN VERAVAL.
From Shubhakrit Pushya Full Moon Day to Bahudhanya Pushya Full Moon Day, it was 36 years and adding 0-2-15 days, it was Pramadi Bright 1st Day, when Kailyug started and Shri Krishna finished his Avatar. (B.C 3102-2-20 at 2-27-30 P.M)
61. Seven days later, on Bright 7th Day, Dwarka city was submerged by the Ocean. Saptarishis were in Magha Star, 75 years prior to Kaliyug and remained there for 25 years after Kaliyug.