Dear Auroman, Very good analysis of the situation in the West. Now I understand why I felt I was arguing with some people (not you) who do not at all understand me, though all of of us wrote in English. But now I realise that I am in a very different situation, which is why the huge gap of incomprehension. Nevertheless, it is this that is going to bring understanding on both sides, even though we might finally agree to disagree. Raman Reddy